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Posted 22 January 2010 - 09:20 AM

Has anyone done research into the movement of Border Reiver families to the Ulster Plantations?

Most books mention that this occurred when James united the two kingdoms to break the power of the Border families but I have been unable to gather any specifics, names, dates etc.

My father's side emigrated to NZ from County Antrim in 1856. They were protestant and had a Border Reiver name so I would like to be able to trace back if at all possible.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:03 AM

Our in-house genealogy expert would be Maitland. He might be able to offer you some insight, however I know he is rather busy working on some educational issues of his own. Let's see if he can find time to respond to this one.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:27 AM

View PostMike, on 24 January 2010 - 06:03 AM, said:

Our in-house genealogy expert would be Maitland. He might be able to offer you some insight, however I know he is rather busy working on some educational issues of his own. Let's see if he can find time to respond to this one.


This would be the origins of the Ulster-Scots I believe. There are parts of Ulster where you would find it hard to distinguish a difference in the dialect between those in Ulster and those from Scotland. My understanding is that it was James VI that was responsible for the movement of the Reivers but this decision may have been influenced by the English Court. Given that James became James I of England in 1603 I would suggest that the movement of the Reivers from the Borders would have occurred between this time and the time of James death in 1625.

There are numerous names of the Reiver families and I will have a wee look to see what I can find out.

@ Mike. Funding paperwork all gone yesterday and I am confident of success. I will be sitting down for a little part of the day getting myself accustomed to the study regime again before I start in earnest in September.

@ Beedee. Do you have any dates that may connect your family with Scotland from the North of Ireland? As you are no doubt aware it wasn't until 1855 that registrations of death, births and marriages became law and any connection with Scotland can be difficult to find. The Irish records that were centralised were destroyed in the 1922 uprising but my understanding is that these records are still available at parish level. There are a number of Irish Genealogy sites that are now online that may be able to help you but they are still incomplete and cost a little more than some to use. I unfortunately have had little success with these sites but that's not to say that you will not be successful with them.

My family on my Grandmothers line may have moved from Scotland to Ireland and then back again but the evidence as you know is very difficult to find.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:30 AM

Bee Dee I am sure you are aware of this site.

http://www.borderrei...AMES%20%202.htm

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